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Muslims in Christian countries
01-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Post: #11
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
(01-11-2011 04:01 PM)The b****** Wrote:  Yalides, you live in a (mainly) moderate Muslim country, it is more normal for Muslim countries to become extreme e.g. Sharia law and by extension produce fanatics who know nothing about the world except what they are told to believe in the Qu'ran. It is religious ideology and dogma which is the problem, Islam just being the worst at the moment, but it goes in swings and roundabouts - scholars of history will know this. The blind belief and ignoring of the obvious which exists in ANY religion is stupid. The belief in god is a CHOICE when you're an adult, a stupid one at that. I'm always amazed how few very religious people have a good education, fewer still excel in any field of science or anything else. Says it all really.

Hang on a mo.

The mooslim world was at the foreforont of science & technology.........in the middle ages,that is.

Since then,Christianity has gradually accepted modern scientific discoveries whereas the mooslim world has cast scientific advancement aside in favour of theology almost exclusively. It was once the case that copernicus,galileo etc were condemned as heretics - but eventually,the Christian hierarchy accepted as correct,these said discoveires

That is to say,Christianity has accepted change and has accommodated it into it's doctrine. The mooslims have refused to do so in so many respects.

Now they try to subjugate peoples from all over the planet,with their archaic theology. They are a backward breed.

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01-11-2011, 04:45 PM
Post: #12
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
If the Christian world wishes for this to happen then what can I say. Who is the backward breed ?

I’d agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.
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01-11-2011, 04:55 PM
Post: #13
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
(01-11-2011 04:35 PM)Yalides Wrote:  Thats a generalisation and not true. Turks and Kurds live side by side here. They have businesses next to each other. Kurds speak better English, are better business men and by far a friendlier race. I know an Iranian who lives with his family just down the road from us. A total asshole but I don,t judge all his kind by him alone. And for me to play the race card then, as I said before, Arabs are shite and who the world only take any notice of because they have a bit of oil.

But it just isn't Des,and you know it. You live in turkey from what I believe - not kurdistan,and when I looked at google maps just now - your town isn't in anatolia,or any of the disputed region. The kurds and turks are currently engaged in a struggle about kurdish independence.

The only reason there isn't more violence,is because the EU leans on the turks to restrain themselves against the kurds - as a sort of carrot with which to tempt the turks with EU entry (Something I believe should NEVER be allowed to happen)

The Iraqis gassed them,and were the main protagonists in their attempted genocide.Possibly due to kurdish claims on kirkuk and mosul - both cities are in an oil-rich region.

The iranians dislike the idea of an independent kurdistan as much as turkey and the hussein-led iraq. .

That's not dismissing you out of hand Des mate - it's how we here in blighty are seeing it.

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01-11-2011, 05:06 PM
Post: #14
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
I am not arguing with you on that point mate, its lumping the Kurds in with the real rubbish in the world, the wasters from the Arab worlds. We have gone off the point of wasters coming to UK. Any nationality, any religion, not just Muslims. What about those from the Balkan states ? Whiteish and Christian of a sort ?
Heres a good point, going off subject a tad. The Christian world consists of Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox etc etc and many that we have never heard of. Without googling it name me some Muslim sects. There are those that even Muslims haven,t heard of.

Off to prayers now, back late LOL....

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01-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Post: #15
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
druze? I remember them from israel/lebanon I think

Think there's a sect called hanniballi,too?

There's two anyway off the top of my head

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01-11-2011, 05:58 PM
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RE: Muslims in Christian countries
Sunnis, Shi,ites, Alevis are three that come to mind.

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01-12-2011, 07:40 PM
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(01-11-2011 05:13 PM)Mein blut ist blau Wrote:  druze? I remember them from israel/lebanon I think

Think there's a sect called hanniballi,too?

There's two anyway off the top of my head
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01-12-2011, 07:43 PM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2011 07:47 PM by The Bastard.)
Post: #18
RE: Muslims in Christian countries
(01-11-2011 04:08 PM)Yalides Wrote:  Sharia law is basically an Arab thing. Doesn,t apply here.
If you have a system in the western world that encourages the rubbish from all over the world to try and get here then blame your government. You vote Labour then whinge about immigrants.....doh.

Sharia is an Islam thing, not just Arab, there is Sharia in Muslim countries in Eastern Asia, they're not Arab.
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01-12-2011, 09:08 PM
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RE: Muslims in Christian countries
And sub-saharan africa.

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01-18-2011, 07:08 PM
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Yalides??
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